i am an mma fan and i realize that Dana white is a douche, however it doesn't change the fact that the real hw are in ufc. you will also understand this when fedor runs through strikeforce like he tazmanian devil. Dana white would never co promote ufc... there is no need. ufc does not NEED fedor. But no fight would draw more money..no matter where it is promoted than brock/fedor. The only reason m1 is co promoted with strikeforce is to stand a chance against ufc. Yeah that fedor fight drew ratings i am sure, but i don't see it selling strikeforce pay per views. dana white is doing something right, even though he is a weenie.
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Your reasons why UFC sucks
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strongisland631
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Posted 4 months ago # -
BigN8tive
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We are all entitled to our opinion, I respect that. Mine is that the sport of MMA needs Fedor, I don't care if the UFC does or not.
No fighter can say or be the best until there is open competition. The UFC is a closed competition, you don't sign, you don't fight.
If you remember when Zuffa first bought the UFC. dana said they would gladly co-promote. I hope Strikeforce will always continue to. MMA needs Strikeforce.
Without Strikeforce, EliteXC, MAYBE we wouldn't have seen Brett Rogers. I think it was a fight too early for a match against Fedor. He did very good though, better than Arlovsky and Silvia. Fedor has more experience, but now if Rogers uses this fight for motivation, we'll see a much better fighter. I'm a new fan of Brett "The Grim" Rogers.
Fedor is still the greatest heavyweight of all time. The UFC needs some legit heavyweight fighters to prove their champ. "Big Baby" on The Ultimate Fighter is going to win it. I'm on Rampages side. Dan Henderson deserves another title shot. Strikeforce is signing a lot of great fighters.
But those are my opinions.
Posted 4 months ago # -
ndizzle
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on another note dream aint going away either with the ties it gots with sf they here to stay.sengoku either.hopefully feg doesnt sell them to ufc.
Rampage-“I've noticed that the UFC & TUF have some fans brainwashed or something.
Much respect to the fightersPosted 4 months ago # -
strongisland631
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elite xc signed a bunch of great fighter too
Posted 4 months ago # -
RafeZe
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The UFC is to fighters what the RIAA is to musicians. Create a monoply by signing them up on "lucrative" contracts and use them up.
Doesn't matter though the UFC will continue to flourish because Dawna knows how to work the business. Props to the man for that.
Posted 4 months ago # -
ndizzle
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ya that y strikeforced improved alot this year with the acuisitions from elite xc starting with shamrock vs diaz card.
Rampage-“I've noticed that the UFC & TUF have some fans brainwashed or something.
Much respect to the fightersPosted 4 months ago # -
Combinate
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The Real HW's are in the UFC? When did this happen? Frank Mir? Lesnar looks to have a ton of promise but he's 4-1 and their champion. Speaks for what the UFC has behind Lesnar. Carwin and Velazquez look promising as well, but what decent MMA promotion doesn't have a few promising HW prospects?
Posted 4 months ago # -
ndizzle
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agree they have potetial.lesnar inexperience lost em the first fight with mir.
Rampage-“I've noticed that the UFC & TUF have some fans brainwashed or something.
Much respect to the fightersPosted 4 months ago # -
DisposableHero
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It's fair to say that the UFC (like any company, or person) makes questionable decisions sometimes, but to sit here and honestly say that the UFC sucks is total garbage. I'm a fan of MMA, not of the UFC, but lets be real here. Who gives you the most fight cards per year? Who has the deepest roster in almost every division? (I say almost because the one area the UFC lacks in would be 155 and under) And who made it possible for these other orginazations to get mainstream acceptance, resulting in MMA being shown on a regular basis and all over the place? The answer is pretty simple, like it or not. So is the UFC the end all be all of MMA? Nope. But does it suck? Get out of here if your answer is anything other than NO!
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Urijah FaberPosted 4 months ago # -
Liquidrob
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The UFC has a great promotion, but to say the best HWs are in the UFC are silly, the UFC HW champ has not been considered the best HW in the world for years and years going back to Nog who was the concensus number 1 HW in the world
Than Fedor beat Nog and has not been beat, when Fedor, Nog, Cro Cop, etc..were ruling the HW division the UFC was about Big Tim and AA who Fedor dispatched easily
Fedor is number 1, if people want to be called the best HW, they have to come to him, not the other way around, learn your MMA history
Posted 4 months ago # -
Urban
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wow @ strongisland saying after watching fedor vs rogers that brock would destroy fedor
how so??? rogers got man handled through out the entire fight... he only landed 4 shots the entire fight, that first jab that broke his nose, then 3 out of 9 shots he threw on the ground that everyone thought had fedor all in danger
only thing fedor needs to work on his fighting up against the cage, but aint lock brock is any more skilled than rogers, brock is just bigger
Posted 4 months ago # -
DisposableHero
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Urban, you are nuts dude. I hate Brock as much as the next guy but to say that Brock isn't any more skilled than Rogers is not exactly an educated statement. What "skills" does Rogers have? He can throw punches... Ok, I'm not that impressed, alot of big guys can throw bombs. He has openly admitted that his "ground training" consists of trying to get to his feet, so it's fair to say that he relies solely on his hands. Brocktard on the other hand, has some of the best wrestling in MMA, and has shown that he can use his hands to set up his takedowns, resulting in almost flawless ground control and some major ground and pound action. If Rogers fought Brock it would end the same way it ended with Fedor, Rogers would be asleep on the canvas and have another loss on his record.
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Urijah FaberPosted 4 months ago # -
SandyWH
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"Brocktard on the other hand, has some of the best wrestling in MMA, and has shown that he can use his hands to set up his takedowns, resulting in almost flawless ground control and some major ground and pound action."
How is this? Brock's wrestling is no where close to the best in MMA. The fact that he has outweighed his opponents between 45-70 lbs might have something to do with the "Ride 'Em Cowboy" approach he has.
Mir has poor wrestling, Herring is a joke, Randy was 45 and out weighed by 70 lbs on a short camp after 18 months off, Brock has proven nothing other than a promoter really can convince you that he is that good.
Brock will get smashed by Carwin, Nog handles him pretty easily, and Fedor? HAHAHAHAHAHA Fedor would "Sylvia" Brock.
Not only is Brock Lesnar as champ one of the biggest tragedies in MMA, but how he got there is near criminal.
1-0 - beat an absolute no one
1-1 - A thought to be washed up Mir was brought in to give Brock a big name victory of a former champ. Mir was 2-2 since his return. He got wasted by Cruz and Vera and Hardonk was actually dominating him until the kimura.
2-1 - Brock beat Herring. Yes Herring has fought alot of notables, but Herring has also lost to alot of notables. Also, he was matched upi with Brock specifially because they knew that Herring cannot handle wrestlers (see O'Brien)
3-1 - Wanting to give Brock a title shot, and with Nog holding the belt, UFC caved in and brought back Randy. Randy at 46 had not fought in nearly 2 years, and was given 6 weeks to prepare for the fight, not his usual 8-10 (and that's when he's in shape). Couture gave up nearly 60 lbs in weight in the fight. And still Brock never reallt dominated him.
4-1 - Coming off of a win over a should-have-been-in-the-hospital Big Nog, Mir was set to take Lesnar again. This time Lesnar wouldn't get caught in a knee bar, and would show better than he did before, but outside of dominating a bad wrestler with wrestling he showed the world nothing.Lesnar is the single most illegitimate champion in MMA today, Alistair Overeem included.
Posted 4 months ago # -
RafeZe
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As far as I know everyone knows that Brock is UFC's currant cash cow. Dawna is making a mistake IMHO by touting him as a true champion. Brock is going to have his ass handed to him as soon as he fights talent from his own weight class.
Posted 4 months ago # -
strongisland631
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urban i said he would destroy rogers not fedor. I just think that brock is the only fighter that would be a good fight for fedor
Posted 4 months ago # -
Brian
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1. ufc 94
2. brock lesnar 1-1 getting a title shot
3. dana white continuously countering strikeforce
4. unfair releasing of good fighters [i.e rich clementi]
5. a zero tolerance policy of fighters actions when they are under contract with the organisation when it suits them [i.e melvin guillard]
6. dana being a hypocrite by saying dan henderson was next in line for a title shot but it turns out vitor belfort was next
7. ed soares acting like joe silva's assistant matchmaker and getting the match up he wants [i.e he wanted marquardt and henderson to fight each other after henderson was told he was next in line and he got the wish]Posted 4 months ago # -
Frank
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Reason I dislike the UFC: The lack of respect Dana White has for his fighters, and any fighter outside of his organization. Not to mention the fact that he would ban a good sponsor, simply because they sponsored Fedor.
He says Fedor is nothing, yet he offered him the most money he'd offered anyone else? I think this shows Dana White doesn't give a crap about the sport, just his fat check and his *opinions* If he really wanted to have Fedor in the UFC he would have Co-promoted. But as you can see, he loves money, not MMA. I'm glad Fedor is with Strikeforce and not UFC. Before anyone says *Oh you just don't want Fedor facing good competition* If I was a fan of a fighter, wouldn't I want too see him fight tough opponents? I would not sign with UFC if I was a fighter, Dana White is a garbage president. We need more people like Scott Coker, it will do good for our sport.I watch UFC for the fighters. But right now, StrikeForce has 4 of my all time fav fighters. UFC has a couple (all from PRIDE)
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